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	<title>Comments on: Wind power isn&#8217;t perfect, but it&#8217;s a hell of a lot better than the alternatives</title>
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		<title>By: Byron Reynolds</title>
		<link>http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2013/01/18/wind-power-isnt-perfect-but-its-a-hell-of-a-lot-better-than-the-alternatives/comment-page-1/#comment-64316</link>
		<dc:creator>Byron Reynolds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2013 04:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tyler, don&#039;t know where else to put this, so here it is.

You should have a look at the Lux Windpower site. www.luxwindpower.com

Glen has spent the last number of years developing a vertical axis wind turbine that actually works and addresses the shortcomings of previous attempts at VAWTs. His research has also focused on driving down the cost of the rotor on the turbine.

He has been working with a 40KW proof of concept prototype and is currently securing funding for a larger commercial scale prototype.

With a number of basic, but fundamental design changes from &quot;traditional&quot; VAWTs Glen has come up with a potential game changer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tyler, don&#8217;t know where else to put this, so here it is.</p>
<p>You should have a look at the Lux Windpower site. <a href="http://www.luxwindpower.com" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/comment/www.luxwindpower.com');" rel="nofollow">http://www.luxwindpower.com</a></p>
<p>Glen has spent the last number of years developing a vertical axis wind turbine that actually works and addresses the shortcomings of previous attempts at VAWTs. His research has also focused on driving down the cost of the rotor on the turbine.</p>
<p>He has been working with a 40KW proof of concept prototype and is currently securing funding for a larger commercial scale prototype.</p>
<p>With a number of basic, but fundamental design changes from &#8220;traditional&#8221; VAWTs Glen has come up with a potential game changer.</p>
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		<title>By: Mitch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2013 23:15:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi,

http://thefraserdomain.typepad.com/energy/2007/12/wind-power-as-a.html
&quot;A study conducted by Stanford University confirmed that interconnected multiple wind farms can be used to provide baseload electric power. Interconnecting wind farms with a transmission grid reduces the power swings caused by wind variability and makes a significant portion of it just as consistent a power source as a coal power plant.&quot;

http://news.stanford.edu/news/2007/december5/windfarm-120507.html
&quot;This study implies that, if interconnected wind is used on a large scale, a third or more of its energy can be used for reliable electric power, and the remaining intermittent portion can be used for transportation, allowing wind to solve energy, climate and air pollution problems simultaneously,&quot; said Archer, the study&#039;s lead author and a consulting assistant professor in Stanford&#039;s Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering and research associate in the Department of Global Ecology at the Carnegie Institution. &quot;

&quot;As one might expect, not all locations make sense for wind farms. Only locations with strong winds are economically competitive. In their study, Archer and Jacobson, a professor of civil and environmental engineering at Stanford, evaluated 19 sites in the Midwestern United States with annual average wind speeds greater than 6.9 meters per second at a height of 80 meters above ground, the hub height of modern wind turbines. Modern turbines are 80 to 100 meters high, approximately the height of a 30-story building, and their blades are 70 meters long or more.

The researchers used hourly wind data, collected and quality-controlled by the National Weather Service, for the entire year of 2000 from the 19 sites. They found that an average of 33 percent and a maximum of 47 percent of yearly-averaged wind power from interconnected farms can be used as reliable baseload electric power. These percentages would hold true for any array of 10 or more wind farms, provided it met the minimum wind speed and turbine height criteria used in the study.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p><a href="http://thefraserdomain.typepad.com/energy/2007/12/wind-power-as-a.html" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/comment/thefraserdomain.typepad.com');" rel="nofollow">http://thefraserdomain.typepad.com/energy/2007/12/wind-power-as-a.html</a><br />
&#8220;A study conducted by Stanford University confirmed that interconnected multiple wind farms can be used to provide baseload electric power. Interconnecting wind farms with a transmission grid reduces the power swings caused by wind variability and makes a significant portion of it just as consistent a power source as a coal power plant.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://news.stanford.edu/news/2007/december5/windfarm-120507.html" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/comment/news.stanford.edu');" rel="nofollow">http://news.stanford.edu/news/2007/december5/windfarm-120507.html</a><br />
&#8220;This study implies that, if interconnected wind is used on a large scale, a third or more of its energy can be used for reliable electric power, and the remaining intermittent portion can be used for transportation, allowing wind to solve energy, climate and air pollution problems simultaneously,&#8221; said Archer, the study&#8217;s lead author and a consulting assistant professor in Stanford&#8217;s Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering and research associate in the Department of Global Ecology at the Carnegie Institution. &#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;As one might expect, not all locations make sense for wind farms. Only locations with strong winds are economically competitive. In their study, Archer and Jacobson, a professor of civil and environmental engineering at Stanford, evaluated 19 sites in the Midwestern United States with annual average wind speeds greater than 6.9 meters per second at a height of 80 meters above ground, the hub height of modern wind turbines. Modern turbines are 80 to 100 meters high, approximately the height of a 30-story building, and their blades are 70 meters long or more.</p>
<p>The researchers used hourly wind data, collected and quality-controlled by the National Weather Service, for the entire year of 2000 from the 19 sites. They found that an average of 33 percent and a maximum of 47 percent of yearly-averaged wind power from interconnected farms can be used as reliable baseload electric power. These percentages would hold true for any array of 10 or more wind farms, provided it met the minimum wind speed and turbine height criteria used in the study.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Kuster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Kuster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2013 21:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve yet to hear a decent argument to proceed further with wind. We&#039;re at a point that coal can be shut down and wind had nothing to do with it. The Eurozone has deemed Nat. Gas a &quot;Green&quot; energy source. We seem to be ok with it heating our homes for the most part with furnaces we demand to operate in the high 90&#039;s in terms of efficiency. Wind operates at no such efficiency level. To now equate gas fired plants to be our new coal bogeyman, is preposterous. Peter Altmair, German Environment Minister stated that at the opening of a new 2200mw coal plant near Cologne that replacing older coal plants with newer ones was &quot;consistent with our environmental objectives&quot;. 22 more are planned there to stabilize the grid as a result of the installed wind and solar.
  As for storage, I suggest you check out Tom Murphys site &quot;Do the Math&quot; and check out Pump up the Storage and the other link for home storage options. It&#039;s there that science and math destroys any reasonable notion that energy storage is anywhere in our forseeable future.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve yet to hear a decent argument to proceed further with wind. We&#8217;re at a point that coal can be shut down and wind had nothing to do with it. The Eurozone has deemed Nat. Gas a &#8220;Green&#8221; energy source. We seem to be ok with it heating our homes for the most part with furnaces we demand to operate in the high 90&#8242;s in terms of efficiency. Wind operates at no such efficiency level. To now equate gas fired plants to be our new coal bogeyman, is preposterous. Peter Altmair, German Environment Minister stated that at the opening of a new 2200mw coal plant near Cologne that replacing older coal plants with newer ones was &#8220;consistent with our environmental objectives&#8221;. 22 more are planned there to stabilize the grid as a result of the installed wind and solar.<br />
  As for storage, I suggest you check out Tom Murphys site &#8220;Do the Math&#8221; and check out Pump up the Storage and the other link for home storage options. It&#8217;s there that science and math destroys any reasonable notion that energy storage is anywhere in our forseeable future.</p>
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		<title>By: Edward Kerr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edward Kerr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2013 21:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tyler.
Obviously the person who complained about your article hasn&#039;t a clue as to how wind generators work of what their true pro&#039;s and con&#039;s are. I also doubt that for full disclosure he revealed what his investment profile looks like (assuming that he has one). But what I find most amazing is that there are still people on this planet who don&#039;t get that we MUST abandon coal and fossil oil as fast as possible and that until something better comes around wind is, as you say, a hell of a lot better...
Edward Kerr]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tyler.<br />
Obviously the person who complained about your article hasn&#8217;t a clue as to how wind generators work of what their true pro&#8217;s and con&#8217;s are. I also doubt that for full disclosure he revealed what his investment profile looks like (assuming that he has one). But what I find most amazing is that there are still people on this planet who don&#8217;t get that we MUST abandon coal and fossil oil as fast as possible and that until something better comes around wind is, as you say, a hell of a lot better&#8230;<br />
Edward Kerr</p>
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		<title>By: Max Kennedy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max Kennedy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2013 18:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t know how they got a patent for this.  It&#039;s all old hat.  Frictional heating, a hot water tank and an ORC unit.  Absolutely nothing new here!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t know how they got a patent for this.  It&#8217;s all old hat.  Frictional heating, a hot water tank and an ORC unit.  Absolutely nothing new here!</p>
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