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	<title>Comments on: Shortage of IPv4 Web addresses could impact smart grid, lighting, buildings, appliances</title>
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		<title>By: Paul C from Austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul C from Austin</dc:creator>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think you have to worry about companies like GE not knowing we are running out of IP Addresses- that is really not the question for a company like GE- it is not up to them to just assign IP Addresses to their appliances.  They will not get any IPv4 addresses for their appliances- they will have to wait fror IPv6.  For example, every NIC (Network Interface Card) that is manufactured- the port you plug your Ethernet or LAN cable into, each has a unique MAC address- this is handled by the IEEE who assigns manufacturers numbers, who then in turn keep track of their own MAC address space.

I would imagine that, when the time comes, something similar will be set up with IPv6, with maybe IETF, who has/is developing IPv6, handling the addresses.  If any devices, smart grid devices included, are going to get an IP Address, it is going to have to wait for a broader adoption of IPv6- and that may take years!  Through NAT (Network Address Translation) and other techniques, we have been able to forestall the end of the IPv4 addressing, so there is a lot of inertia not to change.  Eventually, we will have to, but I do not think it is going to happen quickly.  That said, individual companies could set up their own networks with either IPv4 or IPv6, just like they do now.  So, for example, a utility company could set up their own internal network of Smart Meters with IPv6, with maybe someway for the meter to identify a homeowner&#039;s appliances and give them temporary IP Addresses- much like current, internal networks for almost all businesses.

So, at least for now, what Appliance companies like GE might need to consider, is what do they need to implement into their appliances that a Smart Meter can use, whether it is an appliance identifier, or a means to accept an identifier, like an IP Address.  Of course, then you do not have a National Network of Smart Grids talking to each other  And this is not necessarilly a bad thing- a utility company, again much like a large business today, can keep their network structure private and thus more secure.  Frankly, the idea of a National Network, given the exploits of today&#039;s hackers, is a scary idea to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think you have to worry about companies like GE not knowing we are running out of IP Addresses- that is really not the question for a company like GE- it is not up to them to just assign IP Addresses to their appliances.  They will not get any IPv4 addresses for their appliances- they will have to wait fror IPv6.  For example, every NIC (Network Interface Card) that is manufactured- the port you plug your Ethernet or LAN cable into, each has a unique MAC address- this is handled by the IEEE who assigns manufacturers numbers, who then in turn keep track of their own MAC address space.</p>
<p>I would imagine that, when the time comes, something similar will be set up with IPv6, with maybe IETF, who has/is developing IPv6, handling the addresses.  If any devices, smart grid devices included, are going to get an IP Address, it is going to have to wait for a broader adoption of IPv6- and that may take years!  Through NAT (Network Address Translation) and other techniques, we have been able to forestall the end of the IPv4 addressing, so there is a lot of inertia not to change.  Eventually, we will have to, but I do not think it is going to happen quickly.  That said, individual companies could set up their own networks with either IPv4 or IPv6, just like they do now.  So, for example, a utility company could set up their own internal network of Smart Meters with IPv6, with maybe someway for the meter to identify a homeowner&#8217;s appliances and give them temporary IP Addresses- much like current, internal networks for almost all businesses.</p>
<p>So, at least for now, what Appliance companies like GE might need to consider, is what do they need to implement into their appliances that a Smart Meter can use, whether it is an appliance identifier, or a means to accept an identifier, like an IP Address.  Of course, then you do not have a National Network of Smart Grids talking to each other  And this is not necessarilly a bad thing- a utility company, again much like a large business today, can keep their network structure private and thus more secure.  Frankly, the idea of a National Network, given the exploits of today&#8217;s hackers, is a scary idea to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Shortage of IPv4 Web addresses could impact Smart Grid &#171; SmartGrid Current</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shortage of IPv4 Web addresses could impact Smart Grid &#171; SmartGrid Current</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 22:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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