Comments on: A brief comment on the state of climate science, worth watching http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2009/12/03/a-brief-comment-on-the-state-of-climate-science-worth-watching/ Trends, happenings and innovations in the clean technology market Mon, 30 Jan 2012 14:28:54 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Angel Kafazov http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2009/12/03/a-brief-comment-on-the-state-of-climate-science-worth-watching/comment-page-1/#comment-8688 Angel Kafazov Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:50:40 +0000 http://www.cleanbreak.ca/?p=1924#comment-8688 Why did you delete my comment? I am just trying to express an opinion in a civilized manner, but you obviously do not publish anything to the contrary to your political views! I should have guess that from you, working for the Canada's largest daily newspaper. Why did you delete my comment? I am just trying to express an opinion in a civilized manner, but you obviously do not publish anything to the contrary to your political views! I should have guess that from you, working for the Canada’s largest daily newspaper.

]]> By: Angel Kafazov http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2009/12/03/a-brief-comment-on-the-state-of-climate-science-worth-watching/comment-page-1/#comment-8650 Angel Kafazov Sun, 27 Dec 2009 17:34:54 +0000 http://www.cleanbreak.ca/?p=1924#comment-8650 I watched the full video and I have to say I am disappointed by the way this issue is handled and presented by people like dr. Holdren. First, the whole video is just a statement of how good this "science" and how sure we are of the need to reduce CO2 emissions. There is nothing about the nature of the emails, what they contain but just a continuation of the statements we've been hearing for decades. I personally am ashamed that people like this are our leading scientists and they show no ability to reason and think critically. What those emails show is the true nature of what science has become - money schemes, distortion of data in the name of justifying an already defined conclusions, threats agains scientists who do not agree and total manipulation of public perception. The emails are real and if you read them you should be greatly concerned. I wonder how those small group of people were just months back our leading authorities on the subject whose reports were basis for new legislation and measure by the UN, Al Gore and others. I watched the full video and I have to say I am disappointed by the way this issue is handled and presented by people like dr. Holdren. First, the whole video is just a statement of how good this “science” and how sure we are of the need to reduce CO2 emissions. There is nothing about the nature of the emails, what they contain but just a continuation of the statements we’ve been hearing for decades. I personally am ashamed that people like this are our leading scientists and they show no ability to reason and think critically.

What those emails show is the true nature of what science has become – money schemes, distortion of data in the name of justifying an already defined conclusions, threats agains scientists who do not agree and total manipulation of public perception. The emails are real and if you read them you should be greatly concerned. I wonder how those small group of people were just months back our leading authorities on the subject whose reports were basis for new legislation and measure by the UN, Al Gore and others.

]]> By: Sustainable Tucson » Blog Archive » Hear John Holdren on Climate Science http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2009/12/03/a-brief-comment-on-the-state-of-climate-science-worth-watching/comment-page-1/#comment-8341 Sustainable Tucson » Blog Archive » Hear John Holdren on Climate Science Wed, 09 Dec 2009 20:36:34 +0000 http://www.cleanbreak.ca/?p=1924#comment-8341 [...] Clean Break, John Holdren, Director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, offers some [...] [...] Clean Break, John Holdren, Director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, offers some [...]

]]> By: Bill Browett http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2009/12/03/a-brief-comment-on-the-state-of-climate-science-worth-watching/comment-page-1/#comment-8254 Bill Browett Sat, 05 Dec 2009 16:26:47 +0000 http://www.cleanbreak.ca/?p=1924#comment-8254 Tyler, Thanks for pulling together this response that, in part, appears to be a response to Rex Murphy's recent rant. These Nature and Economists articles are especially helpful. I am hoping, as I often do, that this controversy highlights that real science is a much more human enterprise than the naive focus on "facts", and this event is a short lived event, so we can get back to the real issues related to dealing with Climate Change. More broadly, thanks for your balanced practical approach to the topics of renewable energy and Climate Change. As a practicing scientist, with deep interest in these topics, it is refreshing to have these complex subjects communicated so effectively. As someone who spends his professional life trying to find ways of retain electronic scientific data for periods much greater than 10 years, the descriptions of “destroyed data”, are fully consistent with common scientific practice and technical capability. Another challenge for the scientific community will be to figure out how to retain valuable supporting data. Regards, Bill Browett Tyler, Thanks for pulling together this response that, in part, appears to be a response to Rex Murphy’s recent rant. These Nature and Economists articles are especially helpful. I am hoping, as I often do, that this controversy highlights that real science is a much more human enterprise than the naive focus on “facts”, and this event is a short lived event, so we can get back to the real issues related to dealing with Climate Change.

More broadly, thanks for your balanced practical approach to the topics of renewable energy and Climate Change. As a practicing scientist, with deep interest in these topics, it is refreshing to have these complex subjects communicated so effectively. As someone who spends his professional life trying to find ways of retain electronic scientific data for periods much greater than 10 years, the descriptions of “destroyed data”, are fully consistent with common scientific practice and technical capability. Another challenge for the scientific community will be to figure out how to retain valuable supporting data.

Regards, Bill Browett

]]> By: Ryan http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2009/12/03/a-brief-comment-on-the-state-of-climate-science-worth-watching/comment-page-1/#comment-8233 Ryan Fri, 04 Dec 2009 16:45:48 +0000 http://www.cleanbreak.ca/?p=1924#comment-8233 Thanks for your update Tyler, I was a little surprised by Rex's opinion too. Thanks for your update Tyler, I was a little surprised by Rex’s opinion too.

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