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		<title>By: Wind Power Costs &#124; The future of wind power</title>
		<link>http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2009/05/12/wind-energy-health-cost-performance/comment-page-1/#comment-5538</link>
		<dc:creator>Wind Power Costs &#124; The future of wind power</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 20:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Copper use in current and future applications &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Copper Trends (weekly)</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 01:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Eric Childs</title>
		<link>http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2009/05/12/wind-energy-health-cost-performance/comment-page-1/#comment-5507</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Childs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 00:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great reporting, Tyler. It never ceases to amaze how much of the &quot;commentary&quot; out there relies on pure conjecture, with no attempt to do...you know...actual research to back it up. For all the people making wild predictions about the need for backup, very few seem to have realized that there are actual grid operators out there, with actual experience managing diverse generating sources. And some of them even have phones! Fact checking just isn&#039;t fun, I guess.

So thanks, Tyler, for cutting through the bullcrap. These articles are some of the most clear-headed pieces on wind issues that I&#039;ve seen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great reporting, Tyler. It never ceases to amaze how much of the &#8220;commentary&#8221; out there relies on pure conjecture, with no attempt to do&#8230;you know&#8230;actual research to back it up. For all the people making wild predictions about the need for backup, very few seem to have realized that there are actual grid operators out there, with actual experience managing diverse generating sources. And some of them even have phones! Fact checking just isn&#8217;t fun, I guess.</p>
<p>So thanks, Tyler, for cutting through the bullcrap. These articles are some of the most clear-headed pieces on wind issues that I&#8217;ve seen.</p>
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		<title>By: Pieter Knispel</title>
		<link>http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2009/05/12/wind-energy-health-cost-performance/comment-page-1/#comment-5494</link>
		<dc:creator>Pieter Knispel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 20:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very good articles Tyler.  As a rabid wind, solar, geothermal, tidal and renewables fan, I hate seeing stories referring to wind as negative to health when in reality, we will never be able to prove it one way or another.  I think the key is to listen, address as much as possible and implement province wide standards (as in the Green Energy Act) that will minimize the potential for any true harm.

One of the issues that is really starting to drive me crazy is people who bring up the intermittency issue.  If we were to install the full 13 500 MW of wind energy (reported to be under development in some way, shape or form) that is effectively half of our peak consumption.  There will be a means to store this energy to resolve the intermittency issue, it is only a matter of time.  Riverbank is a great example (thanks for reporting on that too!) of the ways to solve this problem, using existing technology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good articles Tyler.  As a rabid wind, solar, geothermal, tidal and renewables fan, I hate seeing stories referring to wind as negative to health when in reality, we will never be able to prove it one way or another.  I think the key is to listen, address as much as possible and implement province wide standards (as in the Green Energy Act) that will minimize the potential for any true harm.</p>
<p>One of the issues that is really starting to drive me crazy is people who bring up the intermittency issue.  If we were to install the full 13 500 MW of wind energy (reported to be under development in some way, shape or form) that is effectively half of our peak consumption.  There will be a means to store this energy to resolve the intermittency issue, it is only a matter of time.  Riverbank is a great example (thanks for reporting on that too!) of the ways to solve this problem, using existing technology.</p>
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		<title>By: Tyler Hamilton on wind &#171; Green Grift</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tyler Hamilton on wind &#171; Green Grift</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 19:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] last two columns in the Toronto Star purport to set the record straight on wind. So far, Hamilton seems relatively unconvinced by the growing [...]</description>
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		<title>By: mattbg</title>
		<link>http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2009/05/12/wind-energy-health-cost-performance/comment-page-1/#comment-5489</link>
		<dc:creator>mattbg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 17:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought this was a good series. My main problem with these projects is that conservation is not taken nearly seriously enough, yet reduction of consumption would seem to amplify the effectiveness of these wind installations by increasing the chance that they can replace an older or dirtier form of generation.

I imagine the grid will need a massive overhaul to support the installation of wind turbines here and there, rather in one big generation site... and will the cost of the grid overhaul be worth the benefits of wind generation?

The best wind sites have already been scoped out, haven&#039;t they? The problem is that they are very, very far from where anyone lives!

Still, I agree that it should be part of the solution... but I&#039;d rather we take conservation more seriously because it&#039;s cheaper if we don&#039;t have to generate in the first place. Sadly, I think the only way to do this will be through price increases.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought this was a good series. My main problem with these projects is that conservation is not taken nearly seriously enough, yet reduction of consumption would seem to amplify the effectiveness of these wind installations by increasing the chance that they can replace an older or dirtier form of generation.</p>
<p>I imagine the grid will need a massive overhaul to support the installation of wind turbines here and there, rather in one big generation site&#8230; and will the cost of the grid overhaul be worth the benefits of wind generation?</p>
<p>The best wind sites have already been scoped out, haven&#8217;t they? The problem is that they are very, very far from where anyone lives!</p>
<p>Still, I agree that it should be part of the solution&#8230; but I&#8217;d rather we take conservation more seriously because it&#8217;s cheaper if we don&#8217;t have to generate in the first place. Sadly, I think the only way to do this will be through price increases.</p>
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		<title>By: Articles on wind power in Ontario address effects on emissions, other issues &#171; Knowledge Problem</title>
		<link>http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2009/05/12/wind-energy-health-cost-performance/comment-page-1/#comment-5487</link>
		<dc:creator>Articles on wind power in Ontario address effects on emissions, other issues &#171; Knowledge Problem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 15:25:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Clean Break » Blog Archive » Wind energy: health, cost, performance</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 12:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 09:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
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