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	<title>Comments on: The credit crunch and its impact on green projects</title>
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		<title>By: Brown Bashes Obama: Don&#8217;t Make Ethics Rules You Won&#8217;t Follow — But As For Me</title>
		<link>http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2008/10/14/the-credit-crunch-and-its-impact-on-green-projects-in-ontario/comment-page-1/#comment-4104</link>
		<dc:creator>Brown Bashes Obama: Don&#8217;t Make Ethics Rules You Won&#8217;t Follow — But As For Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 21:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Quote of the Day: Bob Lutz on What Could Kill The Volt &#124; Go Green Park</title>
		<link>http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2008/10/14/the-credit-crunch-and-its-impact-on-green-projects-in-ontario/comment-page-1/#comment-3209</link>
		<dc:creator>Quote of the Day: Bob Lutz on What Could Kill The Volt &#124; Go Green Park</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 07:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Hamilton at Clean Break reminds us of what Bob Lutz said a month ago when I asked him if a recession could kill the Volt, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Green Your Ride &#187; Quote of the Day: Bob Lutz on What Could Kill The Volt</title>
		<link>http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2008/10/14/the-credit-crunch-and-its-impact-on-green-projects-in-ontario/comment-page-1/#comment-3196</link>
		<dc:creator>Green Your Ride &#187; Quote of the Day: Bob Lutz on What Could Kill The Volt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 01:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Hamilton at Clean Break reminds us of what Bob Lutz said a month ago when I asked him if a recession could kill the Volt, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Eric Childs</title>
		<link>http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2008/10/14/the-credit-crunch-and-its-impact-on-green-projects-in-ontario/comment-page-1/#comment-3189</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Childs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 14:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s important to note that while the low fuel prices and supply-side economics of the 80s placed a major damper on the progress of the 70s, they did not stop the momentum altogether. Indeed, environmental awareness continued to gain traction throughout the 80s and 90s. The current (or recent?) greentech boom was well underway back when oil was $20 a barrel, and &#039;An Inconvenient Truth&#039; was just a glimmer in Al Gore&#039;s eye.

Meanwhile, the importance of climate change and energy security are well cemented into our minds, even if the solutions have to go on the backburner for a while. We&#039;re not going to forget about the volatility of oil prices the second gas comes down. And while investment will suffer for a time, greentech remains as one of the most promising sectors. The mindset of the past month should not be taken as representative of the next five years. 

In fact, the idea that &quot;we all got greedy/lived beyond our means&quot; has emerged as something of a mantra in this latest crisis. This suggests a &quot;small-c&quot; conservative attitude is taking hold--literally, conservation will be seen as a good investment strategy. And we will (tend to) reward long-term thinking in our political leaders even if we are temporarily shy of overly ambitious-sounding projects.

Until now, we&#039;ve been far more willing to spend money on the latest gadgets, than on conservation-related improvements that will ultimately save us money. Will this change?

As an architect, I&#039;m constantly stunned to see how many of the green building ideas now in vogue were fully developped in the 70s, during the short period of time between the first oil shock and the return to cheap energy in the 80s. Many of these ideas were well and truly shelved, but others had momentum. Building codes significantly improved in the 80s. Windows and major appliances have seen huge advances in efficiency throughout the last thrity years. 

Recessions are inevitable. They do not stop progress. The current one, or a siginifacant fall in gas prices, will not kill the greentech industry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s important to note that while the low fuel prices and supply-side economics of the 80s placed a major damper on the progress of the 70s, they did not stop the momentum altogether. Indeed, environmental awareness continued to gain traction throughout the 80s and 90s. The current (or recent?) greentech boom was well underway back when oil was $20 a barrel, and &#8216;An Inconvenient Truth&#8217; was just a glimmer in Al Gore&#8217;s eye.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, the importance of climate change and energy security are well cemented into our minds, even if the solutions have to go on the backburner for a while. We&#8217;re not going to forget about the volatility of oil prices the second gas comes down. And while investment will suffer for a time, greentech remains as one of the most promising sectors. The mindset of the past month should not be taken as representative of the next five years. </p>
<p>In fact, the idea that &#8220;we all got greedy/lived beyond our means&#8221; has emerged as something of a mantra in this latest crisis. This suggests a &#8220;small-c&#8221; conservative attitude is taking hold&#8211;literally, conservation will be seen as a good investment strategy. And we will (tend to) reward long-term thinking in our political leaders even if we are temporarily shy of overly ambitious-sounding projects.</p>
<p>Until now, we&#8217;ve been far more willing to spend money on the latest gadgets, than on conservation-related improvements that will ultimately save us money. Will this change?</p>
<p>As an architect, I&#8217;m constantly stunned to see how many of the green building ideas now in vogue were fully developped in the 70s, during the short period of time between the first oil shock and the return to cheap energy in the 80s. Many of these ideas were well and truly shelved, but others had momentum. Building codes significantly improved in the 80s. Windows and major appliances have seen huge advances in efficiency throughout the last thrity years. </p>
<p>Recessions are inevitable. They do not stop progress. The current one, or a siginifacant fall in gas prices, will not kill the greentech industry.</p>
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		<title>By: Quote of the Day: Bob Lutz on What Could Kill The Volt &#124; Eco Friendly Mag</title>
		<link>http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2008/10/14/the-credit-crunch-and-its-impact-on-green-projects-in-ontario/comment-page-1/#comment-3187</link>
		<dc:creator>Quote of the Day: Bob Lutz on What Could Kill The Volt &#124; Eco Friendly Mag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 07:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Hamilton at Clean Break reminds us of what Bob Lutz said a month ago when I asked him if a recession could kill the Volt, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Quote of the Day: Bob Lutz on What Could Kill The Volt &#124; The Green House Effect</title>
		<link>http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2008/10/14/the-credit-crunch-and-its-impact-on-green-projects-in-ontario/comment-page-1/#comment-3182</link>
		<dc:creator>Quote of the Day: Bob Lutz on What Could Kill The Volt &#124; The Green House Effect</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 17:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Learn. Shop. Explore.      Tyler Hamilton at Clean Break reminds us of what Bob Lutz said a month ago when I asked him if a recession could kill the Volt, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Quote of the Day: Bob Lutz on What Could Kill The Volt &#124; Alt Dot Energy</title>
		<link>http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2008/10/14/the-credit-crunch-and-its-impact-on-green-projects-in-ontario/comment-page-1/#comment-3181</link>
		<dc:creator>Quote of the Day: Bob Lutz on What Could Kill The Volt &#124; Alt Dot Energy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 17:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] on What Could Kill The Volt   Published October 15th, 2008 in General News.      Tyler Hamilton at Clean Break reminds us of what Bob Lutz said a month ago when I asked him if a recession could kill the Volt, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Paul C from Austin</title>
		<link>http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2008/10/14/the-credit-crunch-and-its-impact-on-green-projects-in-ontario/comment-page-1/#comment-3168</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul C from Austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 19:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Leaning&quot; - ARRGH- I should vote for Noah Webster if my online spelling gets any worse!</description>
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		<title>By: Paul C from Austin</title>
		<link>http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2008/10/14/the-credit-crunch-and-its-impact-on-green-projects-in-ontario/comment-page-1/#comment-3167</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul C from Austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 18:59:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh- and myself- a lifelong, mostly-republican-voting conservative- I am more and more leaing toward Barack Obama, because of his more agressive stance on this issue- that is how important I see it for our future;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh- and myself- a lifelong, mostly-republican-voting conservative- I am more and more leaing toward Barack Obama, because of his more agressive stance on this issue- that is how important I see it for our future;-)</p>
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		<title>By: Paul C from Austin</title>
		<link>http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2008/10/14/the-credit-crunch-and-its-impact-on-green-projects-in-ontario/comment-page-1/#comment-3166</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul C from Austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 18:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alas!  I saw this coming at some point- falling gas prices and how they could affect the momentum of a greener change.  Sadly, you are correct- most people wil take the short view of things when now is the time to push for a change in how we power our autos, our homes and our factories.  Frustratingly, the technology exists today to make such a change, especially if you don&#039;t mind some nuclear thrown in the mix (I do not, and see it as an important part of our overall energy scheme to get completely off of carbon-based energy).  If only our next leader, whether here in the US or Canada, will have the foresight and vision to see what this can really become.  How it can drive our economy for years both in terms of money not sent overseas for fuel, and in terms of creating an export consisting of Green Technology.  Okay, let me take off the rose-colored glasses now;-)  It will be an interesting year after the elections!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alas!  I saw this coming at some point- falling gas prices and how they could affect the momentum of a greener change.  Sadly, you are correct- most people wil take the short view of things when now is the time to push for a change in how we power our autos, our homes and our factories.  Frustratingly, the technology exists today to make such a change, especially if you don&#8217;t mind some nuclear thrown in the mix (I do not, and see it as an important part of our overall energy scheme to get completely off of carbon-based energy).  If only our next leader, whether here in the US or Canada, will have the foresight and vision to see what this can really become.  How it can drive our economy for years both in terms of money not sent overseas for fuel, and in terms of creating an export consisting of Green Technology.  Okay, let me take off the rose-colored glasses now;-)  It will be an interesting year after the elections!</p>
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