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	<title>Comments on: Canadian federal budget misses mark &#8212; by a mile</title>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2008/02/26/canadian-federal-budget-misses-mark-by-a-mile/comment-page-1/#comment-1857</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 21:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s an interesting post, though I haven&#039;t a clue who these people are. And somehow find &quot;global cooling&quot; hard to believe when we&#039;re seeing Arctic ice disappear and entire portions of Antarctica breaking off.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s an interesting post, though I haven&#8217;t a clue who these people are. And somehow find &#8220;global cooling&#8221; hard to believe when we&#8217;re seeing Arctic ice disappear and entire portions of Antarctica breaking off.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2008/02/26/canadian-federal-budget-misses-mark-by-a-mile/comment-page-1/#comment-1856</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 21:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s an interesting post, though I haven&#039;t a clue who these people are. And somehow find &quot;global cooling&quot; hard to believe when we&#039;re seeing Arctic ice disappear and entire portions of Antarctica breaking off.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s an interesting post, though I haven&#8217;t a clue who these people are. And somehow find &#8220;global cooling&#8221; hard to believe when we&#8217;re seeing Arctic ice disappear and entire portions of Antarctica breaking off.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2008/02/26/canadian-federal-budget-misses-mark-by-a-mile/comment-page-1/#comment-1855</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 21:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please read with an open mind.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,23411799-7583,00.html

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please read with an open mind.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2008/02/26/canadian-federal-budget-misses-mark-by-a-mile/comment-page-1/#comment-1866</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 22:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tyler, please don&#039;t move to the West Coast.  We need people like you in Ontario, and honestly, I hate people like that west coast guy.

:)

Oh, and you can put all the pressure you want on our MPs but until the Opposition finds a clue....  At least the Tories are running a minority.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tyler, please don&#8217;t move to the West Coast.  We need people like you in Ontario, and honestly, I hate people like that west coast guy.<br />
 <img src='http://www.cleanbreak.ca/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Oh, and you can put all the pressure you want on our MPs but until the Opposition finds a clue&#8230;.  At least the Tories are running a minority.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2008/02/26/canadian-federal-budget-misses-mark-by-a-mile/comment-page-1/#comment-1858</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 22:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boy, are you clueless! Do you have any idea when the last solar maximum was? Hmmm...

How about the last solar minimum? Hmmm...

And when were the most powerful solar flares on record emitted from the sun? Hmmm...

Again, if you knew what you were talking about- I stress, *IF*- then you would not only know the answers to these questions, but it would also be obvious to you that there is very little correlation- let alone causation- between solar activity and climate change.

FYI, the last solar maximum was in the beginning of 2001; the last solar minimum was in 2006; and the most powerful solar flares ever recorded were emitted in the first half of 2001. Don&#039;t you remember how crazy the weather was, and how hot it was, 7 years ago?? And do you remember how much colder it was, and how much more snow fell, during the end of 2006- compared to the end of 2007 and now??

Oh wait... !

Please get a clue. And you&#039;d do well buying that extra big shovel instead of Tyler. With the countless pounds of steamy, brown stuff you&#039;re shoveling in here, you really need it!

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boy, are you clueless! Do you have any idea when the last solar maximum was? Hmmm&#8230;</p>
<p>How about the last solar minimum? Hmmm&#8230;</p>
<p>And when were the most powerful solar flares on record emitted from the sun? Hmmm&#8230;</p>
<p>Again, if you knew what you were talking about- I stress, *IF*- then you would not only know the answers to these questions, but it would also be obvious to you that there is very little correlation- let alone causation- between solar activity and climate change.</p>
<p>FYI, the last solar maximum was in the beginning of 2001; the last solar minimum was in 2006; and the most powerful solar flares ever recorded were emitted in the first half of 2001. Don&#8217;t you remember how crazy the weather was, and how hot it was, 7 years ago?? And do you remember how much colder it was, and how much more snow fell, during the end of 2006- compared to the end of 2007 and now??</p>
<p>Oh wait&#8230; !</p>
<p>Please get a clue. And you&#8217;d do well buying that extra big shovel instead of Tyler. With the countless pounds of steamy, brown stuff you&#8217;re shoveling in here, you really need it!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2008/02/26/canadian-federal-budget-misses-mark-by-a-mile/comment-page-1/#comment-1865</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 16:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi,

i wanted to email you, but could not locate your email address on the blog.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi,</p>
<p>i wanted to email you, but could not locate your email address on the blog.</p>
<p>blogsjam is a new web-based blog reader, organized by channels.</p>
<p>your blog is included in blogsjam.</p>
<p>pl. check it out, and contact me at <a href="mailto:saibose@gmail.com">saibose@gmail.com</a>, if you have any questions.</p>
<p>we also have a cool widget, that will not only help get more</p>
<p>distribution for your blog,</p>
<p>but it can also be used to feature fresh and contextual posts on your blog.</p>
<p>thx-Saikat</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2008/02/26/canadian-federal-budget-misses-mark-by-a-mile/comment-page-1/#comment-1864</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 13:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The scary thing is there is no real effective opposition, they bitch and moan then vote with the gov.

The money being spent here that for example could have gone to Zenn to develop their hiway version but instead  will end up with GM and Magna just so they can play catch up with the Japanese car makers.  Money given to the old auto makers has been proven to money lost every time, you give them billions and they still close plants.  Hand outs should only go with job garentees and sustainable development not corporate welfare for failures.

Fund Zenn, take the sales tax of zero emmision vehicles, bikes, scooters, cars, fund a high speed rail link would all be good starts. But no this bunch would rather spend money on nukes, coal tech, C-17s and used tanks.

I pray there is a revolution before they destroy our chances of surviving Peak oil and climate change.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The scary thing is there is no real effective opposition, they bitch and moan then vote with the gov.</p>
<p>The money being spent here that for example could have gone to Zenn to develop their hiway version but instead  will end up with GM and Magna just so they can play catch up with the Japanese car makers.  Money given to the old auto makers has been proven to money lost every time, you give them billions and they still close plants.  Hand outs should only go with job garentees and sustainable development not corporate welfare for failures.</p>
<p>Fund Zenn, take the sales tax of zero emmision vehicles, bikes, scooters, cars, fund a high speed rail link would all be good starts. But no this bunch would rather spend money on nukes, coal tech, C-17s and used tanks.</p>
<p>I pray there is a revolution before they destroy our chances of surviving Peak oil and climate change.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2008/02/26/canadian-federal-budget-misses-mark-by-a-mile/comment-page-1/#comment-1862</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 02:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know what the whole point of a Democracy is? That when a revolution is necessary (every 50 years or so), you don&#039;t have to use force of arms to do it:). All that is necessary for a &quot;revolution&quot; in a democratic country is for people to actually bother to go out and vote.

It&#039;s kind of cool when you think about it.

Anyway, that was way offtopic.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know what the whole point of a Democracy is? That when a revolution is necessary (every 50 years or so), you don&#8217;t have to use force of arms to do it:). All that is necessary for a &#8220;revolution&#8221; in a democratic country is for people to actually bother to go out and vote.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s kind of cool when you think about it.</p>
<p>Anyway, that was way offtopic.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 19:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree 100% Tyler.  And it&#039;s such a boring budget that no one is even paying attention, yet they should.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree 100% Tyler.  And it&#8217;s such a boring budget that no one is even paying attention, yet they should.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2008/02/26/canadian-federal-budget-misses-mark-by-a-mile/comment-page-1/#comment-1861</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 18:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One can only be amazed at how effective industry lobbbying is.  The vehicle rebate is cancelled (benefiting which companies?), and the oil and nuclear industries receive a shot in the arm.  This is how revolutions start, when governments make such self serving decisons that ignore the needs of the people, in this case the need for clean energy from decentralized sources.  The voices from the sustainable energy businesses are growing in volume, but they are not enough to overcome those of the existing giants, that will take time, and a change in government.

To create that change in government, write your MP that you disagree with spending on carbon sequestration and nuclear energy.  Let&#039;s spend the money on efficiency and sustainable energy options that can be deployed across Canada, providing needed jobs and local employment this year, and for years to come.

Let&#039;s legislate far more efficient vehicles, industry will have no choice but to build them.  Funding research for more efficient vehicle design, when existing hybrids have been in the market place for over ten years is just silly, it is just pandering to some noisy (and well funded) lobbyists.

I bought my very efficient car 8 years ago, why should my tax dollars go to research technology that existed in 2000?

This government is heading for a train wreck over its lack of meaningful engagement with clean energy options that benefit all Canadians.  The sooner they destroy public confidence in themselves through this lack of action, the better.  Harper is so brilliantly strategic, but has such terrible grasp of what is important, how sad that such a strategic mind is building such an unsustainable future for us.

(Re. climate change and this winter.  A smooth although exponential rise in CO2 emissions does not necessarily produce a smooth weather change.  Systems, such as our climate, do not respond linearly to changes in various parameters.  Large dynamic systems have resonant frequencies, over damped, underdamped and step chnage responses to changing variables - this is what climate modellers do, they explore these relationships.  There are all sorts of systems (car suspensions, aircraft wings, stock markets, heart rates, etc.) that have complex outputs for seemingly simple changes in input.).

Cheers

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One can only be amazed at how effective industry lobbbying is.  The vehicle rebate is cancelled (benefiting which companies?), and the oil and nuclear industries receive a shot in the arm.  This is how revolutions start, when governments make such self serving decisons that ignore the needs of the people, in this case the need for clean energy from decentralized sources.  The voices from the sustainable energy businesses are growing in volume, but they are not enough to overcome those of the existing giants, that will take time, and a change in government.</p>
<p>To create that change in government, write your MP that you disagree with spending on carbon sequestration and nuclear energy.  Let&#8217;s spend the money on efficiency and sustainable energy options that can be deployed across Canada, providing needed jobs and local employment this year, and for years to come.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s legislate far more efficient vehicles, industry will have no choice but to build them.  Funding research for more efficient vehicle design, when existing hybrids have been in the market place for over ten years is just silly, it is just pandering to some noisy (and well funded) lobbyists.</p>
<p>I bought my very efficient car 8 years ago, why should my tax dollars go to research technology that existed in 2000?</p>
<p>This government is heading for a train wreck over its lack of meaningful engagement with clean energy options that benefit all Canadians.  The sooner they destroy public confidence in themselves through this lack of action, the better.  Harper is so brilliantly strategic, but has such terrible grasp of what is important, how sad that such a strategic mind is building such an unsustainable future for us.</p>
<p>(Re. climate change and this winter.  A smooth although exponential rise in CO2 emissions does not necessarily produce a smooth weather change.  Systems, such as our climate, do not respond linearly to changes in various parameters.  Large dynamic systems have resonant frequencies, over damped, underdamped and step chnage responses to changing variables &#8211; this is what climate modellers do, they explore these relationships.  There are all sorts of systems (car suspensions, aircraft wings, stock markets, heart rates, etc.) that have complex outputs for seemingly simple changes in input.).</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
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