Comments on: B.C. takes important lead with carbon tax http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2008/02/20/bc-takes-important-lead-with-carbon-tax/ Trends, happenings and innovations in the clean technology market Thu, 18 Mar 2010 22:38:27 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Anonymous http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2008/02/20/bc-takes-important-lead-with-carbon-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-1834 Anonymous Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:47:00 +0000 http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2008/02/20/bc-takes-important-lead-with-carbon-tax/#comment-1834 You just got to get real. How is ignoring the obivious economic hardship placed on families a good thing? Don't you read the news? Gas is sky high with no end in sight. So how is the tax good? Maybe the BC government will encourage the opening up of more organizations like Quest and middle class families who can't come up with money for food because of the high cost of groceries can now shop there also. You won't get any nutrition out of the expired food products which are shelved for the poor to buy but heck its better than starving I guess. You just got to get real. How is ignoring the obivious economic hardship placed on families a good thing? Don’t you read the news? Gas is sky high with no end in sight. So how is the tax good? Maybe the BC government will encourage the opening up of more organizations like Quest and middle class families who can’t come up with money for food because of the high cost of groceries can now shop there also. You won’t get any nutrition out of the expired food products which are shelved for the poor to buy but heck its better than starving I guess.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2008/02/20/bc-takes-important-lead-with-carbon-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-1833 Anonymous Fri, 07 Mar 2008 14:05:00 +0000 http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2008/02/20/bc-takes-important-lead-with-carbon-tax/#comment-1833 How went the convention? How went the convention?

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2008/02/20/bc-takes-important-lead-with-carbon-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-1832 Anonymous Fri, 07 Mar 2008 09:39:00 +0000 http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2008/02/20/bc-takes-important-lead-with-carbon-tax/#comment-1832 Apply a carbon tax to industry and power producers? Why would government want to bite the hand that feeds them? No, I'm afraid this global warming/climate change swindle is only meant to rob the middle class and the poor of what little disposable income they still have. Previous gas hikes haven't deterred drivers from using their vehicles and neither will this one, simply because we still have to drive. We may all contribute to climate change to some degree but ask yourself why the biggest polluters and contaminators of the environment aren't being singled out and held accountable, morally and monetarily? Have you ever heard Gore or the other pseudo-environmentalists admonish the mining, energy, forestry or chemical industries? P.E.T.A. claims that the meat industry is responsible for more pollution than all vehicular traffic combined. What about the airline industry with their thousands of planes flying daily, burning upwards of 30,000 gallons of fuel on take off alone. Has anyone been measuring the toxic waste this multi-billion dollar cartel produces? If the "green credit" system that David Suzuki and others are marketing to the masses had any merit, Canadian citizens should be reaping the riches from other nations purchasing credits from us, due to our vast wilderness and "carbon sinks" we've been blessed with. But no, the only credit we receive is being the first to be punished for utilizing the limited sources of fuel that are economically available. And why do you think that is, when as early as 1890 there were already solar powered steam engines and electric and hybrid vehicles on the streets? Over 100 years later and here we are, still commuting in vehicles powered by ancient internal combustion engines that depend on a resource that's limited, highly-polluting and now becoming very expensive. Speaking of Al Gore, I understand his "carbon footprint" is 20x that of the average person and that his gas and electric bills for his mansion and guest house average over $2300 per month. Not much of a role model for the carbon-neutral life style, huh? I recently watched his movie when a friend loaned me a copy. I would have never bothered otherwise as I had already figured him to be a power-hungry political opportunist, who in this case was simply taking advantage of a natural cosmic cycle. Within the first 15 minutes of the movie he was already spewing the “carbon tax” line and pointing the finger at the general public. I guess that wasn't enough of a clue for some to realize his true agenda. So look forward to paying more for your food, utilities, services, taxes and whatever else government and business can green wash you with. If you happen to be celebrating this latest bit of political thievery and welcoming another hit to your pocketbook, just remember who killed the electric car - and the fact that Mars is heating up too. Apply a carbon tax to industry and power producers? Why would government want to bite the hand that feeds them? No, I’m afraid this global warming/climate change swindle is only meant to rob the middle class and the poor of what little disposable income they still have.

Previous gas hikes haven’t deterred drivers from using their vehicles and neither will this one, simply because we still have to drive. We may all contribute to climate change to some degree but ask yourself why the biggest polluters and contaminators of the environment aren’t being singled out and held accountable, morally and monetarily?

Have you ever heard Gore or the other pseudo-environmentalists admonish the mining, energy, forestry or chemical industries? P.E.T.A. claims that the meat industry is responsible for more pollution than all vehicular traffic combined. What about the airline industry with their thousands of planes flying daily, burning upwards of 30,000 gallons of fuel on take off alone. Has anyone been measuring the toxic waste this multi-billion dollar cartel produces?

If the “green credit” system that David Suzuki and others are marketing to the masses had any merit, Canadian citizens should be reaping the riches from other nations purchasing credits from us, due to our vast wilderness and “carbon sinks” we’ve been blessed with.

But no, the only credit we receive is being the first to be punished for utilizing the limited sources of fuel that are economically available. And why do you think that is, when as early as 1890 there were already solar powered steam engines and electric and hybrid vehicles on the streets? Over 100 years later and here we are, still commuting in vehicles powered by ancient internal combustion engines that depend on a resource that’s limited, highly-polluting and now becoming very expensive.

Speaking of Al Gore, I understand his “carbon footprint” is 20x that of the average person and that his gas and electric bills for his mansion and guest house average over $2300 per month. Not much of a role model for the carbon-neutral life style, huh?

I recently watched his movie when a friend loaned me a copy. I would have never bothered otherwise as I had already figured him to be a power-hungry political opportunist, who in this case was simply taking advantage of a natural cosmic cycle. Within the first 15 minutes of the movie he was already spewing the “carbon tax” line and pointing the finger at the general public. I guess that wasn’t enough of a clue for some to realize his true agenda.

So look forward to paying more for your food, utilities, services, taxes and whatever else government and business can green wash you with. If you happen to be celebrating this latest bit of political thievery and welcoming another hit to your pocketbook, just remember who killed the electric car – and the fact that Mars is heating up too.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2008/02/20/bc-takes-important-lead-with-carbon-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-1831 Anonymous Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:56:00 +0000 http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2008/02/20/bc-takes-important-lead-with-carbon-tax/#comment-1831 This is great news! Polluting our environment with carbon should be taxed and taxed heavily. The problem of global warming is not something that can be delayed - the 2020, 30, 50 timelines are a joke. We need to force industry to innovate NOW. Just watch how fast they can find solutions when they are charged a carbon tax. I agree with Tyler that it needs to be applied immediately to industry and power producers. Otherwise its no different than building a prison and only using it to house those who steal but letting all the murderers go free. Check out this video on how fast the arctic is melting. http://www.livescience.com/php/video/player.php?video_id=arctic_ice_cap Jason This is great news! Polluting our environment with carbon should be taxed and taxed heavily. The problem of global warming is not something that can be delayed – the 2020, 30, 50 timelines are a joke. We need to force industry to innovate NOW. Just watch how fast they can find solutions when they are charged a carbon tax.

I agree with Tyler that it needs to be applied immediately to industry and power producers. Otherwise its no different than building a prison and only using it to house those who steal but letting all the murderers go free.

Check out this video on how fast the arctic is melting.

http://www.livescience.com/php/video/player.php?video_id=arctic_ice_cap

Jason

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2008/02/20/bc-takes-important-lead-with-carbon-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-1830 Anonymous Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:28:00 +0000 http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2008/02/20/bc-takes-important-lead-with-carbon-tax/#comment-1830 Awesome site - I've linked to you. I hope you link back. Awesome site – I’ve linked to you. I hope you link back.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2008/02/20/bc-takes-important-lead-with-carbon-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-1829 Anonymous Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:35:00 +0000 http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2008/02/20/bc-takes-important-lead-with-carbon-tax/#comment-1829 Don't get me wrong, I am all for a carbon tax, however BC's carbon tax will do nothing other than shift income around. We will charge carbon dioxide producer's extra to produce carbon dioxide, then we will turn around and give that money back to those producer's so that they can do what? They will now have more disposable income with which to pay for ... you guessed it producing the same amount of carbon dioxide. The proceeds of a carbon tax should go exclusively to paying for non carbon dioxide producing forms of power production and conservation measures. Anything else will just make the money whiz around faster in the system without reducing carbon dioxide emissions one bit. Don’t get me wrong, I am all for a carbon tax, however BC’s carbon tax will do nothing other than shift income around.
We will charge carbon dioxide producer’s extra to produce carbon dioxide, then we will turn around and give that money back to those producer’s so that they can do what? They will now have more disposable income with which to pay for … you guessed it producing the same amount of carbon dioxide.
The proceeds of a carbon tax should go exclusively to paying for non carbon dioxide producing forms of power production and conservation measures. Anything else will just make the money whiz around faster in the system without reducing carbon dioxide emissions one bit.

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