Comments on: Suncor reveals plans for geothermal in the oil sands http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2007/05/30/suncor-reveals-plans-for-geothermal-in-the-oil-sands/ Trends, happenings and innovations in the clean technology market Mon, 30 Jan 2012 14:28:54 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Jon Bahen http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2007/05/30/suncor-reveals-plans-for-geothermal-in-the-oil-sands/comment-page-1/#comment-9057 Jon Bahen Mon, 18 Jan 2010 14:08:14 +0000 http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2007/05/30/suncor-reveals-plans-for-geothermal-in-the-oil-sands/#comment-9057 What ever happened to this story. It seems to have just died. Does anyone know about this? - Jon What ever happened to this story. It seems to have just died. Does anyone know about this?

- Jon

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2007/05/30/suncor-reveals-plans-for-geothermal-in-the-oil-sands/comment-page-1/#comment-1248 Anonymous Fri, 15 Jun 2007 14:51:46 +0000 http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2007/05/30/suncor-reveals-plans-for-geothermal-in-the-oil-sands/#comment-1248 Oil Sands Mines - devastating impact on 3000 km2 of Alberta In situ oil sands - massive fragmentation on 50,000 km2 of leases sold so far. So, from a total impact perspective, in situ will destroy more forest than the mines will, even if barrel for barrel, its marginally better. Oil Sands are a real disaster any way you slice them. Check out www.oilsandswatch.org for lots of backgrounders Oil Sands Mines – devastating impact on 3000 km2 of Alberta

In situ oil sands – massive fragmentation on 50,000 km2 of leases sold so far.

So, from a total impact perspective, in situ will destroy more forest than the mines will, even if barrel for barrel, its marginally better.

Oil Sands are a real disaster any way you slice them. Check out http://www.oilsandswatch.org for lots of backgrounders

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2007/05/30/suncor-reveals-plans-for-geothermal-in-the-oil-sands/comment-page-1/#comment-1247 Anonymous Tue, 05 Jun 2007 14:51:07 +0000 http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2007/05/30/suncor-reveals-plans-for-geothermal-in-the-oil-sands/#comment-1247 Thanks for the link. I didn't realize that the total area potentially suitable for in situ was so much larger. Made my stomach turn a bit to realize that. Without that tidbit of information, it didn't make any sense to me why ripping out part of the forest would be much worse than ripping out all of it. To me it is a shame that this is happening at all. For a given amount of oil, it seems in situ would do less damage than open mining. Though maybe yields are such that even this would not be true. The six recommendations in Pembina report certainly seem like good ones. To me it seems very odd that the US is pressuring Canada to exploit this environmentally sensitive area using techniques that are more damaging than the ones which would be required to extend extraction in Alaska... all in the name of energy security. Does Canada not have as strong of an environmental lobby as the US? Thanks for the link. I didn’t realize that the total area potentially suitable for in situ was so much larger. Made my stomach turn a bit to realize that. Without that tidbit of information, it didn’t make any sense to me why ripping out part of the forest would be much worse than ripping out all of it. To me it is a shame that this is happening at all.

For a given amount of oil, it seems in situ would do less damage than open mining. Though maybe yields are such that even this would not be true. The six recommendations in Pembina report certainly seem like good ones.

To me it seems very odd that the US is pressuring Canada to exploit this environmentally sensitive area using techniques that are more damaging than the ones which would be required to extend extraction in Alaska… all in the name of energy security.

Does Canada not have as strong of an environmental lobby as the US?

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2007/05/30/suncor-reveals-plans-for-geothermal-in-the-oil-sands/comment-page-1/#comment-1246 Anonymous Mon, 04 Jun 2007 14:08:37 +0000 http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2007/05/30/suncor-reveals-plans-for-geothermal-in-the-oil-sands/#comment-1246 in situ requires "a dense network of roads, pipelines, wellpads and processing facilities across the boreal forest." see "Death by a Thousand Cuts: The Impacts of In Situ Oil Sands Development on Alberta's Boreal Forest" by Pembina Institute http://www.oilsandswatch.org/pub/1263 in situ requires “a dense network of roads, pipelines, wellpads and

processing facilities across the boreal forest.”

see “Death by a Thousand Cuts: The Impacts of In Situ Oil Sands Development on Alberta’s Boreal Forest” by Pembina Institute

http://www.oilsandswatch.org/pub/1263

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2007/05/30/suncor-reveals-plans-for-geothermal-in-the-oil-sands/comment-page-1/#comment-1245 Anonymous Sun, 03 Jun 2007 01:20:34 +0000 http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2007/05/30/suncor-reveals-plans-for-geothermal-in-the-oil-sands/#comment-1245 This is from a March Popular Mechanics article... "Only about 10 percent of Al This is from a March Popular Mechanics article…
“Only about 10 percent of Al

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2007/05/30/suncor-reveals-plans-for-geothermal-in-the-oil-sands/comment-page-1/#comment-1244 Anonymous Fri, 01 Jun 2007 20:44:00 +0000 http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2007/05/30/suncor-reveals-plans-for-geothermal-in-the-oil-sands/#comment-1244 This would be a big advance, both significantly reducing CO2 released, but also the fact that it is in situ rather than open strip mine. I just wish this sort of development were mandatory right now. This would be a big advance, both significantly reducing CO2 released, but also the fact that it is in situ rather than open strip mine.
I just wish this sort of development were mandatory right now.

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