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	<title>Comments on: Higher energy prices won&#8217;t kill the economy</title>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2007/05/30/higher-energy-prices-wont-kill-the-economy/comment-page-1/#comment-1243</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 09:10:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On target.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Corporation

As long as we as participants in this system, so effective through externalization, don&#039;t wake up and start acting to our best insights, we will effectively follow Easter Island.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collapse:_How_Societies_Choose_to_Fail_or_Succeed

A better world is achievable when we start &lt;strong&gt;acting &lt;/strong&gt;to our best insights.

Empty words just add CO2.

Lets start by diverting the $ 20 trillion needed for upcoming refurbishing and upgrading of power plants to Concentrating Solar Power. This is not rocket science; regime actors will tell you so, but when I see what humans can do, this is &lt;strike&gt;merely &lt;/strike&gt;a matter of vision, leadership and bold action.

And &lt;strong&gt;that&lt;/strong&gt;&#039;s there&#039;s where we&#039;re stuck. Not in $$, logistics, materials, technology or whatever we as a society boil up to not do what is expedient now.

Pace e Bene,

Emil M</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On target.</p>
<p>See <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Corporation" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/comment/en.wikipedia.org');" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Corporation</a></p>
<p>As long as we as participants in this system, so effective through externalization, don&#8217;t wake up and start acting to our best insights, we will effectively follow Easter Island.</p>
<p>See <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collapse:_How_Societies_Choose_to_Fail_or_Succeed" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/comment/en.wikipedia.org');" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collapse:_How_Societies_Choose_to_Fail_or_Succeed</a></p>
<p>A better world is achievable when we start <strong>acting </strong>to our best insights.</p>
<p>Empty words just add CO2.</p>
<p>Lets start by diverting the $ 20 trillion needed for upcoming refurbishing and upgrading of power plants to Concentrating Solar Power. This is not rocket science; regime actors will tell you so, but when I see what humans can do, this is <strike>merely </strike>a matter of vision, leadership and bold action.</p>
<p>And <strong>that</strong>&#8216;s there&#8217;s where we&#8217;re stuck. Not in $$, logistics, materials, technology or whatever we as a society boil up to not do what is expedient now.</p>
<p>Pace e Bene,</p>
<p>Emil M</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2007/05/30/higher-energy-prices-wont-kill-the-economy/comment-page-1/#comment-1242</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2007 20:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not only will higher energy prices not kill the economy, but there&#039;s also the very pressing ethical need and practical market response to see prices reflect the real costs. For example, the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.icta.org/press/release.cfm?news_id=12&quot;     rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CTA&#039;s 1998 study&lt;/a&gt; calculated the real price of gasoline (incl. social costs) to be around around $15.14 per gallon.

The crux of the problem is the &lt;strong&gt;market&#039;s inability to account for the real cost&lt;/strong&gt;. As the world&#039;s offshore fisheries are being destroyed one after another, did market prices suddenly rise up to prevent the destruction as supplies dwindled? Nope, the destruction took place or is taking place, while we just moved towards farmed fish. Similar situation with energy IMHO. Why isn&#039;t gas $5 /litre or how is that 2x4 stick of lumber at Home Depot so cheap?

That&#039;s the genius and the core of the &quot;free market&quot; game - namely, the freedom to externalize everything you can so real market forces can be avoided!

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not only will higher energy prices not kill the economy, but there&#8217;s also the very pressing ethical need and practical market response to see prices reflect the real costs. For example, the <a href="http://www.icta.org/press/release.cfm?news_id=12" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/comment/www.icta.org');"     rel="nofollow">CTA&#8217;s 1998 study</a> calculated the real price of gasoline (incl. social costs) to be around around $15.14 per gallon.</p>
<p>The crux of the problem is the <strong>market&#8217;s inability to account for the real cost</strong>. As the world&#8217;s offshore fisheries are being destroyed one after another, did market prices suddenly rise up to prevent the destruction as supplies dwindled? Nope, the destruction took place or is taking place, while we just moved towards farmed fish. Similar situation with energy IMHO. Why isn&#8217;t gas $5 /litre or how is that 2&#215;4 stick of lumber at Home Depot so cheap?</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the genius and the core of the &#8220;free market&#8221; game &#8211; namely, the freedom to externalize everything you can so real market forces can be avoided!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2007/05/30/higher-energy-prices-wont-kill-the-economy/comment-page-1/#comment-1241</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 15:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the skyrocketing of energy prices is difficult to combat. after looking through a bunch of energy sites i came across a few companies that offer home audits to save energy, one of which you can check out at http://idtenergy.com/



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the skyrocketing of energy prices is difficult to combat. after looking through a bunch of energy sites i came across a few companies that offer home audits to save energy, one of which you can check out at <a href="http://idtenergy.com/" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/comment/idtenergy.com');" rel="nofollow">http://idtenergy.com/</a></p>
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