Comments on: UN climate report http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2007/02/02/un-climate-report/ Trends, happenings and innovations in the clean technology market Mon, 15 Mar 2010 18:42:32 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Anonymous http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2007/02/02/un-climate-report/comment-page-1/#comment-974 Anonymous Tue, 06 Feb 2007 13:39:00 +0000 http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2007/02/02/un-climate-report/#comment-974 Thanks for the link. The Wall Street Journal addresses some of the same questions about clouds and water vapour <a href="http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB117047192131597123-JcSAh4rfLiTFzWvgVaMUJH8YPkM_20080203.html?mod=blogs" rel="nofollow">here</a>. Thanks for the link. The Wall Street Journal addresses some of the same questions about clouds and water vapour here.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2007/02/02/un-climate-report/comment-page-1/#comment-973 Anonymous Mon, 05 Feb 2007 13:55:00 +0000 http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2007/02/02/un-climate-report/#comment-973 Try this one http://westernstandard.blogs.com/shotgun/ Try this one

http://westernstandard.blogs.com/shotgun/

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2007/02/02/un-climate-report/comment-page-1/#comment-972 Anonymous Sun, 04 Feb 2007 22:54:00 +0000 http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2007/02/02/un-climate-report/#comment-972 Yes that's an interesting view, though it's about the greenhouse effect, not Kyoto. But not being a climate scientist I have no way of personally verifying his work. So I have to make a choice... Should I take the view supported by the maverick young Israeli scientist who I know only through a journalist and whom I can't ask questions? Or the one advanced by thousands of the planet's most experienced scientists in one of the most comprehensive, most reviewed reports ever? Well, in movies it's always the maverick outsider that's right, so I'll go with the Israeli, no questions asked. Thanks, Anonymous! Yes that’s an interesting view, though it’s about the greenhouse effect, not Kyoto. But not being a climate scientist I have no way of personally verifying his work. So I have to make a choice…

Should I take the view supported by the maverick young Israeli scientist who I know only through a journalist and whom I can’t ask questions?

Or the one advanced by thousands of the planet’s most experienced scientists in one of the most comprehensive, most reviewed reports ever?

Well, in movies it’s always the maverick outsider that’s right, so I’ll go with the Israeli, no questions asked. Thanks, Anonymous!

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2007/02/02/un-climate-report/comment-page-1/#comment-971 Anonymous Sun, 04 Feb 2007 19:25:00 +0000 http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2007/02/02/un-climate-report/#comment-971 Here is another view. http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/story.html?id=156df7e6-d490-41c9-8b1f-106fef8763c6&k=0 Here is another view.

http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/story.html?id=156df7e6-d490-41c9-8b1f-106fef8763c6&k=0

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2007/02/02/un-climate-report/comment-page-1/#comment-970 Anonymous Sun, 04 Feb 2007 13:51:00 +0000 http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2007/02/02/un-climate-report/#comment-970 No, Kyoto <i>is</i> an effort to reduce emmissions: the only serious proposal that's ever been acted on. It's far from perfect, but it's no conspiracy. International co-operation is difficult but in this life it's necessary if you don't want an Iraq-style fiasco. The IPCC has been extremely effective and valuable at creating the necessary dialogue. Kyoto 2.0, whatever it is, will no doubt be much more effective than the current one. China's growth is unsustainable; so is ours. The manufacturing is going there anyway. The "you first" approach isn't working. China has at least shown a willingness to address sustainable development, it's set ambitious targets, and hasn't tried to deny Global Warming. We're far better off helping them become a full partner in the international community than using them as an excuse for our own inaction. No, Kyoto is an effort to reduce emmissions: the only serious proposal that’s ever been acted on. It’s far from perfect, but it’s no conspiracy. International co-operation is difficult but in this life it’s necessary if you don’t want an Iraq-style fiasco. The IPCC has been extremely effective and valuable at creating the necessary dialogue. Kyoto 2.0, whatever it is, will no doubt be much more effective than the current one.

China’s growth is unsustainable; so is ours. The manufacturing is going there anyway. The “you first” approach isn’t working. China has at least shown a willingness to address sustainable development, it’s set ambitious targets, and hasn’t tried to deny Global Warming. We’re far better off helping them become a full partner in the international community than using them as an excuse for our own inaction.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2007/02/02/un-climate-report/comment-page-1/#comment-969 Anonymous Sat, 03 Feb 2007 19:20:00 +0000 http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2007/02/02/un-climate-report/#comment-969 Kyoto is not a effort to reduce emissions, It's a transfer of massive amounts of MONEY from the industrial nations to the non-industrial nations. These latter are <u>EXEMPT</u> from emission standards. They will, as China is now doing, use the money which is not a loan, to build many new factories, that will increase both pollution and carbon emissions. Not to mention, put our industry out of business (paid for by the tax payer). Kyoto is bad for everyone no mater which side of the debate you believe. Peter Kyoto is not a effort to reduce emissions, It’s a transfer of massive amounts of MONEY from the industrial nations to the non-industrial nations. These latter are EXEMPT from emission standards. They will, as China is now doing, use the money which is not a loan, to build many new factories, that will increase both pollution and carbon emissions. Not to mention, put our industry out of business (paid for by the tax payer). Kyoto is bad for everyone no mater which side of the debate you believe.

Peter

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