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	<title>Comments on: Bottled water in compostable bottles?</title>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2007/01/15/bottled-water-in-compostable-bottles/comment-page-1/#comment-859</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 04:50:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is very interesting

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is very interesting</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2007/01/15/bottled-water-in-compostable-bottles/comment-page-1/#comment-858</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 17:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As of 2/28/8, does anyone know of the latest in what&#039;s available in water in biodegradable bottles?  I understand the Biota bottles aren&#039;t that compostable.  ??  Is there a new generation of biodegradeable bottles that composts better than Biota bottles do?

gailrcampbell@hotmail.com

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As of 2/28/8, does anyone know of the latest in what&#8217;s available in water in biodegradable bottles?  I understand the Biota bottles aren&#8217;t that compostable.  ??  Is there a new generation of biodegradeable bottles that composts better than Biota bottles do?</p>
<p><a href="mailto:gailrcampbell@hotmail.com">gailrcampbell@hotmail.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2007/01/15/bottled-water-in-compostable-bottles/comment-page-1/#comment-857</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 14:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WOW! Bottled water in compostable bottles. Now the self absorbederatti make their bottled water fashion statement with guiltless littering or land filling.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW! Bottled water in compostable bottles. Now the self absorbederatti make their bottled water fashion statement with guiltless littering or land filling.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2007/01/15/bottled-water-in-compostable-bottles/comment-page-1/#comment-856</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 01:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the link to the story. This is very helpful. Cheers.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link to the story. This is very helpful. Cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2007/01/15/bottled-water-in-compostable-bottles/comment-page-1/#comment-855</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 00:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a link to a story I wrote for Smithsonian Magazine on some of the pros and cons of corn-based plastics. http://www.smithsonianmagazine.com/issues/2006/august/pla.php

My plastics recycling source said the same thing about contamination of PET plastic.



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a link to a story I wrote for Smithsonian Magazine on some of the pros and cons of corn-based plastics. <a href="http://www.smithsonianmagazine.com/issues/2006/august/pla.php" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/comment/www.smithsonianmagazine.com');" rel="nofollow">http://www.smithsonianmagazine.com/issues/2006/august/pla.php</a></p>
<p>My plastics recycling source said the same thing about contamination of PET plastic.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2007/01/15/bottled-water-in-compostable-bottles/comment-page-1/#comment-854</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jan 2007 17:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is exactly the kind of article that I find myself torn on. On the one hand I really hate the idea of bottled water. It is really wasteful when you consider that tap water is often just fine. The transportation costs and packaging costs are an ecological nightmare. On the other hand I really love the idea of bioplastic and this is one idea that could really catch on.

I was intrigued to hear about potential PET contamination it&#039;s not something I have ever thought about. I think it is important to remember though that plastic can only be recycled so many times and bioplastic could help remedy waste issues.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is exactly the kind of article that I find myself torn on. On the one hand I really hate the idea of bottled water. It is really wasteful when you consider that tap water is often just fine. The transportation costs and packaging costs are an ecological nightmare. On the other hand I really love the idea of bioplastic and this is one idea that could really catch on.</p>
<p>I was intrigued to hear about potential PET contamination it&#8217;s not something I have ever thought about. I think it is important to remember though that plastic can only be recycled so many times and bioplastic could help remedy waste issues.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2007/01/15/bottled-water-in-compostable-bottles/comment-page-1/#comment-853</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jan 2007 12:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not a big fan of bottled water--I never get it at restaurants and sometimes bring a bottle of my own tap water around with me, but there will be times when you&#039;re out and about and really want a drink of water. During hot weather, too, it can health implications, especially for the elderly. People should avoid bottled water whenever possible, but a little going around society is probably OK, we just need to find ways of reducing its footprint. This is a first step.

The issue Lloyd raised about the different recycling streams is an interesting one. Some retailers are refusing bioplastic packaging on the grounds that people will inevitably not know what to do with it. Some people already can&#039;t figure out how to sort their garbage, and the danger is that more complexity will just turn some (not very smart) people off the idea of recycling altogether. Besides, most people in most countries don&#039;t have access to composting facilities. I don&#039;t know what the &quot;role&quot; of biodegradation is in the context of a conventional landfill...source of methane, I guess.

But taking the long view, I have hope that bioplastic will eventually fit into a low-waste society. The city of Toronto&#039;s great success with its own household recycling/commposting program indicates that people aren&#039;t always as dumb as they look, and that with good guidance they&#039;ll get a handle on the recylcing/composting thing. Unfortunately people&#039;s behaviour in public is not the same as at home, and water bottles are, tellingly, already one of the most common types of litter on the streets. We&#039;ve got a long way to go, but ultimately I think bioplastic bottles will turn out to be a good thing.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not a big fan of bottled water&#8211;I never get it at restaurants and sometimes bring a bottle of my own tap water around with me, but there will be times when you&#8217;re out and about and really want a drink of water. During hot weather, too, it can health implications, especially for the elderly. People should avoid bottled water whenever possible, but a little going around society is probably OK, we just need to find ways of reducing its footprint. This is a first step.</p>
<p>The issue Lloyd raised about the different recycling streams is an interesting one. Some retailers are refusing bioplastic packaging on the grounds that people will inevitably not know what to do with it. Some people already can&#8217;t figure out how to sort their garbage, and the danger is that more complexity will just turn some (not very smart) people off the idea of recycling altogether. Besides, most people in most countries don&#8217;t have access to composting facilities. I don&#8217;t know what the &#8220;role&#8221; of biodegradation is in the context of a conventional landfill&#8230;source of methane, I guess.</p>
<p>But taking the long view, I have hope that bioplastic will eventually fit into a low-waste society. The city of Toronto&#8217;s great success with its own household recycling/commposting program indicates that people aren&#8217;t always as dumb as they look, and that with good guidance they&#8217;ll get a handle on the recylcing/composting thing. Unfortunately people&#8217;s behaviour in public is not the same as at home, and water bottles are, tellingly, already one of the most common types of litter on the streets. We&#8217;ve got a long way to go, but ultimately I think bioplastic bottles will turn out to be a good thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2007/01/15/bottled-water-in-compostable-bottles/comment-page-1/#comment-852</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 21:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ignoring the carbon footprint of transporting bottled water, are these bottles any better? In UK they are finding that the composting departments pull them out, whereas if they are left in the waste stream with the PET bottles they completely contaminate it.  from a UK website: according to Paul Davidson, plastics technical manager at the Waste and Resources Action Programme (WRAP), explained: &quot;You don&#039;t need too much PLA to mess PET up, especially if you want to recycle it back into a bottle. It will only take a few percent of PLA to make PET non-viable and that is just another concern for plastic reprocessors to deal with.&quot; http://www.letsrecycle.com/materials/composting/news.jsp?story=6016

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ignoring the carbon footprint of transporting bottled water, are these bottles any better? In UK they are finding that the composting departments pull them out, whereas if they are left in the waste stream with the PET bottles they completely contaminate it.  from a UK website: according to Paul Davidson, plastics technical manager at the Waste and Resources Action Programme (WRAP), explained: &#8220;You don&#8217;t need too much PLA to mess PET up, especially if you want to recycle it back into a bottle. It will only take a few percent of PLA to make PET non-viable and that is just another concern for plastic reprocessors to deal with.&#8221; <a href="http://www.letsrecycle.com/materials/composting/news.jsp?story=6016" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/comment/www.letsrecycle.com');" rel="nofollow">http://www.letsrecycle.com/materials/composting/news.jsp?story=6016</a></p>
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