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	<title>Comments on: China to surpass clean-energy goals by 2020</title>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2006/09/19/china-to-surpass-clean-energy-goals-by-2020/comment-page-1/#comment-645</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2006 04:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>some evidence to support my &#039;wild&#039; claims about fuel cells provided in the link below

http://www.visionengineer.com/env/fc_efficiency.php

(ps...somebody forward that link to Ulf, Stuart Bush @ RBC, MacMurray @ Sprott and

the leader of the fuel cell naysayers (drumroll) Jonathan Hykawy @ Research Capital)

(ps...you could also pose this little question to these folks as well...&quot;Gentlemen, if the world has only a finite supply of fossil fuels against a backdrop of growing demand, then WHY isnt it feasible that the deployment of a new technology that extends the life

of that finite supply by as much as 50% wouldnt create an investment boom in said technology?&quot;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>some evidence to support my &#8216;wild&#8217; claims about fuel cells provided in the link below</p>
<p><a href="http://www.visionengineer.com/env/fc_efficiency.php" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/comment/www.visionengineer.com');" rel="nofollow">http://www.visionengineer.com/env/fc_efficiency.php</a></p>
<p>(ps&#8230;somebody forward that link to Ulf, Stuart Bush @ RBC, MacMurray @ Sprott and</p>
<p>the leader of the fuel cell naysayers (drumroll) Jonathan Hykawy @ Research Capital)</p>
<p>(ps&#8230;you could also pose this little question to these folks as well&#8230;&#8221;Gentlemen, if the world has only a finite supply of fossil fuels against a backdrop of growing demand, then WHY isnt it feasible that the deployment of a new technology that extends the life</p>
<p>of that finite supply by as much as 50% wouldnt create an investment boom in said technology?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2006/09/19/china-to-surpass-clean-energy-goals-by-2020/comment-page-1/#comment-644</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2006 03:57:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the section concerning fuel cells.....my opinion is as follows...

Another research firm jumping on the &#039;fuel cell naysayer bandwagon&#039;....its a fact folks...releasing the energy stored in hydrocarbons via the electrochemical reaction of a fuel cell is more efficent than any combustion process.... Ulf Bossel , Wall Street and

the City of London analysts havent figured this out yet .....but the Chinese have. Expect

many more fuel cell applications in the near future...after all..isnt it nice to get almost TWICE the bang for your barrel of oil , gallon of methanol or cu/yard of biomass when

you reform it thru a PEM of SOFC fuel cell!....the Asians think so!

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the section concerning fuel cells&#8230;..my opinion is as follows&#8230;</p>
<p>Another research firm jumping on the &#8216;fuel cell naysayer bandwagon&#8217;&#8230;.its a fact folks&#8230;releasing the energy stored in hydrocarbons via the electrochemical reaction of a fuel cell is more efficent than any combustion process&#8230;. Ulf Bossel , Wall Street and</p>
<p>the City of London analysts havent figured this out yet &#8230;..but the Chinese have. Expect</p>
<p>many more fuel cell applications in the near future&#8230;after all..isnt it nice to get almost TWICE the bang for your barrel of oil , gallon of methanol or cu/yard of biomass when</p>
<p>you reform it thru a PEM of SOFC fuel cell!&#8230;.the Asians think so!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2006/09/19/china-to-surpass-clean-energy-goals-by-2020/comment-page-1/#comment-643</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 00:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s kind of funny that China gets such rave reviews for what we should have really focused on as the worst part of communism, the fact that it&#039;s undemocratic.  On some level it seems to be paying dividends, as they don&#039;t have to worry about raising money for campaigns (i.e. bowing to the petroleum companies and automakers, or lawyers and unions).  While far from democratic, they do seem better positioned to do the right thing.  However, my guess is that price of gas and their lack of petro resources has more to do with this push than global warming.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s kind of funny that China gets such rave reviews for what we should have really focused on as the worst part of communism, the fact that it&#8217;s undemocratic.  On some level it seems to be paying dividends, as they don&#8217;t have to worry about raising money for campaigns (i.e. bowing to the petroleum companies and automakers, or lawyers and unions).  While far from democratic, they do seem better positioned to do the right thing.  However, my guess is that price of gas and their lack of petro resources has more to do with this push than global warming.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2006/09/19/china-to-surpass-clean-energy-goals-by-2020/comment-page-1/#comment-642</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 21:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By 2020?  By 2020 we&#039;ll all be in flying cars that go to the moon.  What kind of j-s are they trying to peddle?  This is the kind of rohrshach blot news report where anybody can see anything they want.  crapometer alert

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By 2020?  By 2020 we&#8217;ll all be in flying cars that go to the moon.  What kind of j-s are they trying to peddle?  This is the kind of rohrshach blot news report where anybody can see anything they want.  crapometer alert</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2006/09/19/china-to-surpass-clean-energy-goals-by-2020/comment-page-1/#comment-641</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2006 14:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some see China&#039;s role in leading world peace as equally promising, and the West&#039;s as equally dismal. See July 2004 article from American Academy of Arts and Sciences journal, Daedalus, by strategic analysts John Steinbruner and Nancy Gallagher, titled Prospects for Security Transformation.

( cissm.umd.edu/documents/securitytransform.pdf )

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some see China&#8217;s role in leading world peace as equally promising, and the West&#8217;s as equally dismal. See July 2004 article from American Academy of Arts and Sciences journal, Daedalus, by strategic analysts John Steinbruner and Nancy Gallagher, titled Prospects for Security Transformation.</p>
<p>( cissm.umd.edu/documents/securitytransform.pdf )</p>
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