Comments on: Free energy? The Steorn challenge smells… http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2006/08/23/free-energy-the-steorn-challenge-smells/ Trends, happenings and innovations in the clean technology market Mon, 30 Jan 2012 14:28:54 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Anonymous http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2006/08/23/free-energy-the-steorn-challenge-smells/comment-page-1/#comment-585 Anonymous Sun, 10 Jun 2007 19:47:41 +0000 http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2006/08/23/free-energy-the-steorn-challenge-smells/#comment-585 Your comment on the Laws of 'Thermo Dynamics,' is not correct. I invented an engine running on compressed Air in the 80's and this argument was used against me, but what I didn't realise then but do now is the Laws of Thermo dynamics are bull-shit in the first place. The rule it says applies is: you cannot transfer energy from a closed loop system. What it fails to recognise is we are in 1 Universe, we are not in another system. Therefore as another 'LAW' of physics says you cannot destroy energy only convert it. There is an Austrailian guy who has now developed an engine doing just what I did, and it runs on compressed air. Your comment on the Laws of ‘Thermo Dynamics,’ is not correct. I invented an engine running on compressed Air in the 80′s and this argument was used against me, but what I didn’t realise then but do now is the Laws of Thermo dynamics are bull-shit in the first place.

The rule it says applies is: you cannot transfer energy from a closed loop system.

What it fails to recognise is we are in 1 Universe, we are not in another system. Therefore as another ‘LAW’ of physics says you cannot destroy energy only convert it.

There is an Austrailian guy who has now developed an engine doing just what I did, and it runs on compressed air.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2006/08/23/free-energy-the-steorn-challenge-smells/comment-page-1/#comment-584 Anonymous Thu, 08 Feb 2007 14:58:39 +0000 http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2006/08/23/free-energy-the-steorn-challenge-smells/#comment-584 If their technology is for real, all they have to do is build a small power plant, sell the "free" electricity and live happily ever after. By the way, the Brooklin bridge is still available. If their technology is for real, all they have to do is build a small power plant, sell the “free” electricity and live happily ever after.

By the way, the Brooklin bridge is still available.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2006/08/23/free-energy-the-steorn-challenge-smells/comment-page-1/#comment-583 Anonymous Thu, 08 Feb 2007 10:49:45 +0000 http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2006/08/23/free-energy-the-steorn-challenge-smells/#comment-583 There is no real doubt into the existence of this technology (based on the information that is available). Unfortunately some members of the scientific community and their zealous, blind, easily manipulated and fear prone followers seem to have a fundamentalist component and a default setting of sorts. Not too long ago there was a belief that the earth was flat and all who thought differently were considered blasphemous and further proclaimed heretics to be subsequently burnt at a stake. Another question is why have Steorn chosen this approach...one obvious reason is that if the standard protocols were pursued no one would have even heard about this as there are many powerful individuals, governments and corporations that are bound to be upset with a discovery that's been around for quite sometime. All of the mentioned follow the motto "if it is not broken don't fix it" and they are furthermore comfortable and content with how the ailing current economic system works. To quote Upton Sinclair: " It is hard for a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it". Fortunately changes are certainly taking place and the real question is....when will the paradigm shift occur? There is no real doubt into the existence of this technology (based on the information that is available).

Unfortunately some members of the scientific community and their zealous, blind, easily manipulated and fear prone followers seem to have a fundamentalist component and a default setting of sorts.

Not too long ago there was a belief that the earth was flat and all who thought differently were considered blasphemous and further proclaimed heretics to be subsequently burnt at a stake.

Another question is why have Steorn chosen this approach…one obvious reason is that if the standard protocols were pursued no one would have even heard about this as there are many powerful individuals, governments and corporations that are bound to be upset with a discovery that’s been around for quite sometime. All of the mentioned follow the motto “if it is not broken don’t fix it” and they are furthermore comfortable and content with how the ailing current economic system works. To quote Upton Sinclair: ” It is hard for a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it”.

Fortunately changes are certainly taking place and the real question is….when will the paradigm shift occur?

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2006/08/23/free-energy-the-steorn-challenge-smells/comment-page-1/#comment-582 Anonymous Tue, 12 Sep 2006 00:15:06 +0000 http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2006/08/23/free-energy-the-steorn-challenge-smells/#comment-582 They probably said the same things about Tesla with his black box. Pity he couldn't lease it to the commies, otherwise we would have free energy today. Remember that radical invention and innovation usually comes at the 1 in 100 year solar radiation cycles. Our Sun giving us the intellectual means to save the planet this time around. They probably said the same things about Tesla with his black box. Pity he couldn’t lease it to the commies, otherwise we would have free energy today.

Remember that radical invention and innovation usually comes at the 1 in 100 year solar radiation cycles. Our Sun giving us the intellectual means to save the planet this time around.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2006/08/23/free-energy-the-steorn-challenge-smells/comment-page-1/#comment-581 Anonymous Wed, 06 Sep 2006 19:55:51 +0000 http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2006/08/23/free-energy-the-steorn-challenge-smells/#comment-581 I figured it all out. Yep. I did it. Ready? Stoern was the original funding entities for Troy Hurtibuse. Once he got the Angel Light working, they infused him with another round of fundage to further his invention to evolve the Angel Light which we now know as the God light. What the found was when they aimed the God light at a typical turbocharger, it started to spin. They then hooked a generator up to it, and power was created. We should all be scared, they are going to use the technologies to dominate the world. With limitless energy, the power to see through walls, and the Ursus bear suit, we simply cannot stop them. But look on the bright side, no more need for oil, *AND* we can finally find Osama yo Mama. Ethenkyou I figured it all out. Yep. I did it. Ready?

Stoern was the original funding entities for Troy Hurtibuse. Once he got the Angel Light working, they infused him with another round of fundage to further his invention to evolve the Angel Light which we now know as the God light. What the found was when they aimed the God light at a typical turbocharger, it started to spin. They then hooked a generator up to it, and power was created. We should all be scared, they are going to use the technologies to dominate the world. With limitless energy, the power to see through walls, and the Ursus bear suit, we simply cannot stop them.

But look on the bright side, no more need for oil, *AND* we can finally find Osama yo Mama.

Ethenkyou

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2006/08/23/free-energy-the-steorn-challenge-smells/comment-page-1/#comment-580 Anonymous Fri, 01 Sep 2006 08:22:58 +0000 http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2006/08/23/free-energy-the-steorn-challenge-smells/#comment-580 Free energy, you say ? Nowadays, energy equals money, i'e why dont they just plug their excess energy into power grid and get filthy rich with electricity bills ? Why dont they drive around in non-polluting electric cars powered by their miracle devices already ? Because its a scam, regardless of their motivations Free energy, you say ? Nowadays, energy equals money, i’e why dont they just plug their excess energy into power grid and get filthy rich with electricity bills ? Why dont they drive around in non-polluting electric cars powered by their miracle devices already ? Because its a scam, regardless of their motivations

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2006/08/23/free-energy-the-steorn-challenge-smells/comment-page-1/#comment-579 Anonymous Fri, 25 Aug 2006 18:01:37 +0000 http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2006/08/23/free-energy-the-steorn-challenge-smells/#comment-579 The Guardian Unlimited article you linked is interesting. The Guardian Unlimited article you linked is interesting.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2006/08/23/free-energy-the-steorn-challenge-smells/comment-page-1/#comment-578 Anonymous Fri, 25 Aug 2006 09:13:10 +0000 http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2006/08/23/free-energy-the-steorn-challenge-smells/#comment-578 If someone has indeed discovered a way to create 285 units of energy using only 100 units why would they care what the world thinks about their invention. They would simply start making excess energy and sell it and make money. Imagine you have invented a money-making machine. Would you like the rest of the world know that you have it and how it works? OK bad example - making money at home is illegal. Imagine you have invented a gold making machine. Would you like the rest of the world know how this machine work or you would be simply keep making gold. Actually, a few years ago there was a company that advertised just that - a gold making machine. If they really had it why would they be selling a machine - why not selling gold. I hope you got my point :) If someone has indeed discovered a way to create 285 units of energy using only 100 units why would they care what the world thinks about their invention. They would simply start making excess energy and sell it and make money.

Imagine you have invented a money-making machine. Would you like the rest of the world know that you have it and how it works?

OK bad example – making money at home is illegal.

Imagine you have invented a gold making machine. Would you like the rest of the world know how this machine work or you would be simply keep making gold. Actually, a few years ago there was a company that advertised just that – a gold making machine. If they really had it why would they be selling a machine – why not selling gold.

I hope you got my point :)

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2006/08/23/free-energy-the-steorn-challenge-smells/comment-page-1/#comment-577 Anonymous Wed, 23 Aug 2006 19:43:34 +0000 http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2006/08/23/free-energy-the-steorn-challenge-smells/#comment-577 Maybe this is a subtle approach asking us to think what such a limitless source would mean to the world. For example, what do we do with the energy we have now? We trawl the oceans, re-position and engage the Sixth Fleet, consider advertizing on the moon, remove the ecological functions and diversity from vast swaths of landscape, divert rivers and even entire floodplains. etc, etc. We are already using an estimated 40% of natures resources, -to this equation we then add the expected global population rise. Maybe they are asking us to consider which is the more sane path forward: backing-off on our attack on nature by reducing our energy use, or supplying ourselves yet more potential, however clean in emissions. We surely need this discussion as we move into the promises a world of solar concentrators, Eestor, and Flowbatteries offers. Maybe this is a subtle approach asking us to think what such a limitless source would mean to the world. For example, what do we do with the energy we have now? We trawl the oceans, re-position and engage the Sixth Fleet, consider advertizing on the moon, remove the ecological functions and diversity from vast swaths of landscape, divert rivers and even entire floodplains. etc, etc. We are already using an estimated 40% of natures resources, -to this equation we then add the expected global population rise. Maybe they are asking us to consider which is the more sane path forward: backing-off on our attack on nature by reducing our energy use, or supplying ourselves yet more potential, however clean in emissions.

We surely need this discussion as we move into the promises a world of solar concentrators, Eestor, and Flowbatteries offers.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2006/08/23/free-energy-the-steorn-challenge-smells/comment-page-1/#comment-576 Anonymous Wed, 23 Aug 2006 14:48:35 +0000 http://www.cleanbreak.ca/2006/08/23/free-energy-the-steorn-challenge-smells/#comment-576 This is being discussed over at the <a href="http://blog.sciam.com/index.php?title=get_your_free_energy_here&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1" rel="nofollow">SciAm blog</a>. So far the most illuminating comment IMO is that this company used to work with the Irish police to break up credit card fraud/scammers. They may be operating under the principle that to catch a scammer you must become a scammer. This is being discussed over at the SciAm blog. So far the most illuminating comment IMO is that this company used to work with the Irish police to break up credit card fraud/scammers. They may be operating under the principle that to catch a scammer you must become a scammer.

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